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Mark CLP exam in a fair, just, reasonable and equitable manner PDF Print E-mail
Tuesday, 31 July 2007 06:10pm

Contributed by Appasamy Chettiar, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (via email)

Mark CLP exam in a fair, just, reasonable and equitable mannerIt is of great grief and distress to read about the fact that there actually is a quota for the CLP exam.

Is the 9 months of hard work by CLP students going to go to waste?

What is more upsetting is that the Attorney General around October last year claimed that there is no quota for the CLP exam. He claimed that CLP students are not up to mark, thus contributing to the low passing rate.

In light of this, the AG should offer a reasonable explanation for these discrepancies and if he is unable to give one, he should resign or, failing which, be dismissed from office by the government. Speaking untruths is a detestable enough act, but an untruth coming from the person who holds an office, of which honour, transparency and honesty is of utmost importance is, unarguably, a serious act of misconduct.

I think the Legal Profession Qualifying Board (LPQB) should be estopped from enforcing this quota on the basis above.

In writing this, I must stress that I am in no way questioning the right for the bumis to be accorded affirmative or preferential treatment under the Federal Constitution. By all means, pass all the bumi CLP students regardless of their merit, if that is what the bumis want. But please do not restrict the number of non-bumi passes merely because you wish to help the bumis. If the LPQB wishes to control the number of non-bumis entering the legal profession, it should make it clear in plain and express terms. For example:

"Dear prospective candidate, enclosed is an offer to sit for the CLP exam. However, please take note that it is the government's policy to encourage more bumis to join the legal profession and thus, consequently, the number of non-bumis will inevitably have to be controlled. As such, please be aware that if you are not a bumi, your chances of passing this exam is low. By signing up for the CLP exam, you express your awareness of the existence of such a policy and your chances of passing thereof."

As simple as that. But no such disclaimer or warning was given. If it was given, at least prospective candidates could have thought about it carefully and either looked for an alternative (e.g. the English Bar) or another profession (politics, journalism, etc).

And in that case, why stop at the legal profession and single out lawyers? Why not set up the Medical Profession Qualifying Board, Accounting Profession Qualifying Board, Engineering Profession Qualifying Board, etc and require all foreign degree holders to sit for an exam and enforce quotas to boost the number of bumi professionals and clamp down on the number of non-bumi professionals?

I also have one simple question for those who are in support of the bumi quota for the CLP exam: Do you have conclusive empirical evidence which proves that, given that the passing rate has fallen from 74% in 1984 to around 20-25% in 2006, the earnings of bumi lawyers have correspondingly increased by 50% (ignoring inflation) over the past 23 years?

Alternatively, even if the AG is able to offer a reasonable explanation between the discrepancies, that there is no quota and manages to establish that the CLP students don't come up to mark, I have the following questions to raise:

1. Classes for the CLP were originally conducted by the University of Malaya law faculty. The exam papers were also set and marked by them. However, some years back the classes were terminated. UM's role has now been primarily supplanted by 2-3 private colleges in Kuala Lumpur.

When UM was conducting classes, the very same people who taught the CLP also set and marked the papers. In fact, recent CLP students will be familiar with this anecdote: One CLP lecturer used to relate his experience when he was doing his CLP at UM. There were instances when he would ask his lecturer for help on a particular topic and the lecturer would tell him "Why are you wasting your time on this area?", suggesting that that topic will not be appearing in the exam.

The recent batch of CLP students have no such advantage.

CLP students are not to be blamed. They are willing to pay decent money to attend lectures, tutorials, etc provided they get their money's worth - that is to equip ourselves with the necessary skills for legal practice and be able to actually pass the exam, provided they put in sufficient effort.

2. The LPQB does not give students any examiner's reports nor suggested answers. All is given is a subject guide that merely sets out a list of cases. However, apparently some cases have been overruled. Also, amazingly enough, past CLP exams have contained questions set from outside the syllabus.

The AG has claimed that no professional examination body releases examiner's reports. Assuming without accepting that the AG is right, I disagree with the comparison between the CLP and other professional exams.

May I ask why is it that only this particular exam raises so much controversy? Rhetorically it must be asked: Is it because law students are paranoid and have nothing better to do than to cook up imaginary complaints?

I invite anyone to bring to my attention which other exam, in the world or at least in Malaysia, has raised that much controversy and grouses. For example, the chartered accountant's exam is reputedly very tough but you don't hear of complaints being written to the newspapers, etc.

3. Recently, there have been several news reports on judges sitting on a backlog of unwritten judgments.

May I ask: if there are judges, probably having some 20-30 years of practical experience in this profession, who can fail to come up to mark, isn't it understandable and unsurprising if law students with a mere 4-5 years of theoretical experience in law school have shortcomings?

Another poser: Time and time again, we see cases being overruled or in appeal cases, we see a split bench. If judges themselves can have diverging opinions or err on a point of law, what more can be said of fresh law graduates?

While I agree that standards must be upheld and it is in no one's interest to have incompetent lawyers roaming around, surely no one can seriously suggest that fresh law graduates be expected to have impeccable capabilities and knowledge of the law. If that were the case, then shouldn't fresh lawyers be drawing the same salary as experienced lawyers? Shouldn't they be able to argue before the Federal Court immediately after being called to the Bar?

Put another way: Is there anyone born walking or any toddler who is able to start running and play soccer like the Brazilians the moment he can start walking? The answer to this question is so obvious but I'll answer it anyway for avoidance of doubt. No, of course not. Likewise for lawyers.

Experience, or more specifically practical experience is very important. A lot of concepts and matters taught in the CLP are abstract - at least for those who have not actually worked with or even seen the various documents and procedures involved in various legal mechanisms.

To merely assess the students against what they have written in a space of 3 hours and conclude that they don't come up to mark is highly unreasonable, superficial and unfair.

4. Apparently, the CLP exam answer scripts are not marked thoroughly. The examiners are given a "marking scheme" which simply comprises 2-3 lines per answer and merely contains the name of a case or statutory provision expected to be cited. If the examiner doesn't see the case, no marks are given. This is even if the student manages to argue or cite the principle correctly.

Moreover, CLP candidates are assigned a candidate number which clearly indicates the number of times the candidate has sat for the exam. (E.g. XX-1-2007-XXXX).

May I ask the LPQB: why is this necessary? Is it so that the examiners will be aware of the number of times that particular candidate has sat for the exam and thus be more stricter with fresh candidates? In that case, wont the marking standards be lopsided, uneven and not uniform?

In conclusion, I think:

1. The quota for the CLP exam, assuming that there indeed is one, should not be enforced beginning with the 2007 exams. This is because no warning was given and the AG claimed there is no quota.

2. If there is in fact no quota, the CLP exam should be marked on a fair, just, reasonable and through basis and not in a superficial way. The LPQB must ensure that the examiners read every single answer fully and award marks based on merit. Irrelevant factors such as the number of times the candidate has sat for the exam must be disregarded.

3. The CLP exam has outlived its usefulness and should be scrapped. It is beyond the purpose of this article to discuss its reasons - however please see "CLP exam should be scrapped" - for some good arguments on this matter.

Last but not the least, I appeal to every member of the Malaysian Bar to voice their support for the CLP exam to be marked in a fair, just, reasonable and equitable manner. I know there are some 13,000 lawyers in Malaysia and the profession is very "crowded" and competitive. However, please don't view prospective lawyers as mere competitors.

Please look upon us as comrades in the quest of upholding justice and the rule of law, without fear or favour. I know there have been complaints about fresh lawyers being unenthusiastic about their work but please don't draw generalisations. There are a lot of law students who have a deep passion for the law and legal matters. It is not an exaggeration to say that their motto is "Sleep law. Eat law. Drink law." They will be an asset to any law firm that hires them.

Comments (15)Add Comment
Well said...
written by Srimurugan a/l Alagan, Tuesday, July 31 2007 07:46 pm

I totally agree with the author...someone needs to say it....finally.

Srimurugan a/l Alagan

Bar Council, do you hear us???
written by Shim Wai Loon, Tuesday, July 31 2007 11:03 pm

I am really thankful to the author's efforts of writing this article.

Needless to stress any further, this is an issue which highly affecting this profession, its quality, its members and its future;

Despite how many messages we type at here, our voices are perhaps too soft to be heard by the authority; that's why we need the Bar Council to take this issue from the dark and to get to the bottom of it, I think every member deserves an explanation and also the REAL truth of the CLP system. We may be QUALIFIED by the Board as lawyers, but none of us is sure now whether we were so QUALIFIED with our QUALITY, or just because of the quota we made up the QUANTITY. How pathetic when our profession is of a mere mockery??

Bar Council, if you finally hear us, please get us an answer.

Shim Wai Loon

Qualifying Board
written by Yeo Yang Poh, Wednesday, August 01 2007 10:10 am

I intend to raise the matter at the BC meeting this week.

I have not had the opportunity of reading the judgment itself. From newspaper reports, it is not clear to me whether there was indeed a correct finding of the existence of quota, or if this was based on what Khalid himself had alleged. Let BC look into that further.

Speaking from my personal knowledge and experience at the Qualifying Board, I had not seen or heard the mention of any quota when I was sitting on the Board as President of the Bar for 2 years. Neither was there any discussion on "aligning" any set of result to fit a quota. On the contrary, this question was specifically asked (more than once), and each time the answer given was that the QB did NOT operate any quota system. If it had been otherwise, I would have objected, and raised the issue with BC.

I do not have personal knowledge of what might have transpired during Khalid's time, but the impression given to me is that no quota had then existed too. This can be further investigated.

Yeo Yang Poh

Bar Council, do something.
written by Visvanathan Murugiah, Wednesday, August 01 2007 10:23 am

Well. ladies and gentlemen of the Bar Council... have you read the above letter? A well written letter. If that is an indication of the calibre of this "student" I want him in my firm.

The A.G should resign in this fiasco. Khalid is not the only one who should be imprisoned. Why is there no honesty, transparency and accountability?

Bar Council are you hearing the call? Do something.

Visvanathan Murugiah

Bar council..Please do something
written by Srimurugan a/l Alagan, Wednesday, August 01 2007 11:57 am

I am pleading for the bar council to take the necessary action.

Srimurugan a/l Alagan

What Bumi Quota
written by Zainur Zakaria, Wednesday, August 01 2007 04:49 pm

I was a member of the Qualifying Board for the years 1993 to 1995 by virtue of my position as President of the Malaysian Bar. I knew of no such quota for bumiputras and I would never have supported such a scheme. I have yet to have sight of the full witness statement of the late Mohtar Abdullah (former A.G.) to be able to verify the truth of the insinuations made by Appasamy Chettiar. However I hope that any comments with deliberate racial slur be avoided.

Zainur Zakaria

Mr. Yeo, thanks for your assurance.
written by Shim Wai Loon, Wednesday, August 01 2007 10:41 pm

This is the extraction of what had been reported in the Star and published at here on 25.7.2007:

"The judge said a perusal of the witness statement of the late board chairman Tan Sri Mohtar Abdullah revealed that Mohtar did not say that the marks could be increased to maintain passing rate of 30%.

He said Mohtar, who was then the Attorney-General, had said in his statement that any matter outside the professional duties of Khalid including the bumiputra quota should be referred to the qualifying board.

The judge found that Khalid did not refer the matter to the qualifying board."


It is undeniable that the witness statement of the former AG revealed the existence of "bumi quota" which actually forms part of that accused person's "professional" duties (how ironic!). Bearing in mind, that is a witness statement of the former AG which was in the possession and knowledge of the Chambers all this while for the purposes of that trial, so if such statement is untrue, why would the prosecution tender it in the Court as evidence?

We want an answer, an answer which can clear the doubts or tear the lies, at least for the sake of a brighter future of this profession.

If possible, I hope the webmaster can temporarily keep this page for a little longer so that more members can express their views on this issue which affects the Bar so fundamentally. Thank you.

Shim Wai Loon

Qualifying Board - any quota?
written by Yeo Tang Poh, Thursday, August 02 2007 08:52 am

Dear Wai Loon,

Thanks for highlighting that part of the report. I can see where you are coming from, and quite rightly if I may say. That statement, framed in that manner, does give rise to the inference that you have drawn.

But there may also be other possibilities. It could be a case of poor grasp of language, in response to a specific allegation made by Khalid. One needs to be averagely bright to suitably answer a question such as "have you stopped beating your wife?" A poor grasp of language, or just carelessness, will make the answer sound horribly wrong.

It could also have been a reflection of Mohtar's own frame of mind (and not necessary the Board's), although that would be most unfortunate since he was the chairman at the time. It needs to be corrected.

You are right that it warrants further enquiry, and action, by the BC. I will raise the matter in the BC & urge the BC to do so.

Thank you once again for highlighting the matter.

Yeo Yang Poh

What racial slur?
written by Visvanathan Murugiah, Thursday, August 02 2007 09:40 am

Dear Encik Zainur,

I believe there are no racial slurs from all the comments that I have read. Question is whether there were quotas of one kind or another. News paper reports seem to suggest that there were when all this while we have been hearing there were none. What i believe is the pertinent question here is to verify the statements. Let the matter be investigated. Let the truth prevail. Let the matter be resolved. Let it not be a matter for speculation anymore.

Let us not be afraid of honest debate.

Visvanathan Murugiah

It sounds racial
written by Hizri Bin Hasshan, Thursday, August 02 2007 11:51 am

Dear Mr. Visvanathan,

Please read the following passage of the comments made by Appasamy Chettiar:

"...In writing this, I must stress that I am in no way questioning the right for the bumis to be accorded affirmative or preferential treatment under the Federal Constitution. By all means, pass all the bumi CLP students regardless of their merit, if that is what the bumis want. But please do not restrict the number of non-bumi passes merely because you wish to help the bumis. If the LPQB wishes to control the number of non-bumis entering the legal profession, it should make it clear in plain and express terms. For example:

"Dear prospective candidate, enclosed is an offer to sit for the CLP exam. However, please take note that it is the government's policy to encourage more bumis to join the legal profession and thus, consequently, the number of non-bumis will inevitably have to be controlled. As such, please be aware that if you are not a bumi, your chances of passing this exam is low. By signing up for the CLP exam, you express your awareness of the existence of such a policy and your chances of passing thereof."...

...I also have one simple question for those who are in support of the bumi quota for the CLP exam: Do you have conclusive empirical evidence which proves that, given that the passing rate has fallen from 74% in 1984 to around 20-25% in 2006, the earnings of bumi lawyers have correspondingly increased by 50% (ignoring inflation) over the past 23 years?"


Personally, I think it sounds very racial...

Hizri Bin Hasshan

What honest debate?
written by Zainur Zakaria, Thursday, August 02 2007 01:17 pm

I for one have no fear of anyone or any debate. But lets not hide behind the word 'honest debate' to vent and justify racially motivated arguments.

Zainur Zakaria

What's the Issue?
written by V. Jeya Kumar, Thursday, August 02 2007 03:00 pm

The issue at hand is an issue about race, and we cannot run away from that fact.

On the one hand, we have the current AG stating that there is no race based quota for the CLP examinations. On the other hand, we have now discovered, albeit through the Press, that the previous AG had given a witness statement in court where he has made reference to "decisions relating to the bumiputra quota".

I do not see any racial slurs in the article. There is no doubt that the author has criticised the Bumiputra quota policy and does not support it. But surely that does not make it a "slur"?

In any event, it seems to me that the idea of the article was to raise an important issue, ie. does the Qualifying Board impose a racial quota for the CLP examinations and if so, why did the current AG say otherwise?

I am disappointed that an important issue such as this is being sidetracked with allegations of racial slurs, where non exists.

Are you now suggesting that the Bar Council impose a blanket ban on lawyers discussing this topic?

I sincerely hope that Mr. Yeo Yang Poh is able to convince the Bar Council to investigate this matter in depth and let members know the true position.

V. Jeya Kumar

Was there a quota, that's the question!
written by Visvanathan Murugiah, Thursday, August 02 2007 05:15 pm

I still don't see the "racial slur". All that is needed here are frank answers from the powers that be. Let us look at the situation rationally without the need for any hysterics. Question that came about is this : was there a quota?

Let us get to the bottom of this matter once and for all. Personally I think together we all, irrespective of race can make this nation of ours really great.Let the walls of race that "divide" us fall and never to be rebuilt.

Visvanathan Murugiah

Surprise, suprise...
written by Ng Chung Yee, Thursday, August 02 2007 05:37 pm

I will share a question that was asked during the Khalid's trial albeit not verbatim...

DPP: Hypothetically, can there be a situation where a 15% market be adjusted to 40% (passing mark)?

Khalid : Depending on various circumstances...yes, there can be.

Although a further question was posted by the presiding judge on who are these candidates, the reply was that it can be anyone, bumiputra or not...

Well, first of all, I do not sit comfortably with the fact that there are 'deserving cases' whereby a 15% can be increased more than 2 fold on a so called 'adjustment'. Of course, I did not sit throughout the entire proceeding, therefore I refrain from making further comments. I tried juggling the circumstances that could justify just a jump in the marks but can't seem to find a good reason. Would definitely welcome a reply from those in the know.

Regards,
Ng Chung Yee

WAS IT A CURSE?
written by Stephen Tan Ban Cheng, Thursday, August 02 2007 06:48 pm

Fellow Malaysians

This is the learned profession. And, by the grace of God, what is happening?

Are we suffering from a shortage of truly "national" or Malaysian leaders? Do we have to put up with people who can only see issues through prisms other than the national one?

What kind of political culture do we have today that has not been able to throw up leaders with "national" aspirations?

I dare say that the issue of whether a quota exists or not is a Malaysian issue.

As I have said, time and again ...

If the CLP has failed to serve its purpose of HELPING law graduates and being a BRIDGE to their ambition. AND

If it has proven to be a HINDRANCE and a WALL (or barrier) for them, let us have the intellectual honesty and integrity of scrapping it off our legal system.

That it has failed is clear: every year for the last so many unforgotten years, no more than 30 per cent of law graduates have failed to make the grade.

Has what has happened lately been the result of a curse? Though not in the grand tradition of the curse of Mahsuri?

Stephen Tan Ban Cheng


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