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Saturday, 09 August 2008 07:42am

Group lodges report over open forum©New Straits Times (Used by permission)

• Umno wings slam Bar
• Bar: Dialogue will proceed
• Anwar: Bar Council should hold closed-door forum

KUALA LUMPUR: The Muslim Consumers Association of Malaysia lodged a police report to protest the Bar Council's open forum on religious conversion.

The report was lodged at the Sentul police station by MCAM project director Noor Nirwandy Mat Noordin.

It is also learnt that there will be a demonstration by members in front of the council's office today at 9am.

"The association is one of several Islamic non-governmental organisations strongly opposed to the forum because it threatens the purity and pride of the religion of Islam," Noor Nirwandy told reporters.

"It can also cause misunderstandings and ill-feelings in society which is comprised of various ethnic races, which have cohabited peacefully and in harmony for many years.

"The forum is regarded as an aggressive effort by certain parties with hidden agendas to jeopardise the harmony of the multiracial community in Malaysia."

He claimed the forum could be construed as a challenge to Malay special rights.

"Islam is the identity of the Malay race in Malaysia and this matter has to be taken seriously so that the religion is not tainted by certain irresponsible parties," Noor Nirwandy said.

About 100 association members marched from Masjid Jamek after noon prayers yesterday to the Bar Council to hand over a memorandum protesting the open forum.

Police observed the march but did not interfere. No untoward incidents were reported.

Meanwhile, city deputy police chief Datuk Abdul Samah Mat confirmed that police would be present at today's planned demonstration by association members.

"Police have not received any application to hold a public gathering near the Bar Council.

"A demonstration in public areas without a permit is illegal," he said.


Umno wings slam Bar

KUALA LUMPUR: The Umno Youth and Wanita wings have voiced their opposition to the Bar Council's plan to hold a forum on Islam.

Youth chief Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said the Bar Council should not blow matters concerning racial and religious issues out of proportion as this would cause tension among the different ethnic groups.

"Umno Youth wishes to remind the Bar Council not to abuse their freedom of speech to such a point that it may anger any particular community."

Wanita deputy chief Datuk Seri Shahrizat Abdul Jalil, meanwhile, said the council should recognise the fact that matters concerning Islam came under the purview of the Malay Rulers.

"Sensitive issues of this nature should not be made the subject matter of any public forum."


Bar: Dialogue will proceed

KUALA LUMPUR: The Bar Council will proceed with the forum on religious conversion today despite concerns voiced by various parties including cabinet ministers, non-governmental organisations and Pas.

In a statement, council vice-president Ragunath Kesavan said its concern was to address the conflicts of laws facing families caught between the separate jurisdictions of civil and syariah laws.

He said it was not questioning the provisions of Article 121(1a), which conferred syariah jurisdiction over Muslims.

While recognising and respecting Article 121(1a), Ragunath said it was unjust to compel anyone to be subjected to laws and courts based on a religion that the person did not profess.

He said the council was "troubled" by the continuing calls from certain quarters that the forum be cancelled.

Claims that the forum would create misunderstanding, anger and tension were in stark contrast with the government's assurances of more dialogue, Ragunath said.

"The forum is not about conversion per se as the council endorses the absolute right of individuals to embrace Islam.

"Instead, the forum will address the ancillary issues that arise from such situations and will emphasise the need for laws, and a judicial system, that protects everyone equally.

"It is the continued suppression of open and respectful discourse, not public forums, that will cause tension and jeopardise national unity.

"We are taking the necessary precautions to ensure that the dialogue takes place in a controlled and constructive manner, by holding the forum in a closed setting and requiring participants to register for the event."


Anwar: Bar Council should hold closed-door forum

by Marc Lourdes

PETALING JAYA: For once, Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim and the Barisan Nasional government agree about something.

The Pakatan Rakyat leader, the government's greatest critic and self-styled prime minister-in-waiting, said the Bar Council should hold its forum on religious conversion behind closed doors.

His statement jived with the government's stand, as Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak had made a similar statement on Thursday.

Anwar said while his position had always been to have an open attitude towards religious issues, the council's chosen topic was an immensely sensitive one.

"I would advise them to have a closed forum and then engage those who are concerned about the issue," he said during a press conference held at the Parti Keadilan Rakyat headquarters here yesterday.

He said he had held a similar closed conference last year and that while it was criticised, at least it allayed the uneasiness of the people.

"I have heard from some groups who worry that this discussion denigrates Islam and while I do not share their view, I think we should be mindful of their fears.

"Having it behind closed doors would be better," said Anwar.

The forum, which will be hosted by the Bar Council today, has been opposed by a broad range of Muslim opinion.

Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar expressed reservations, declaring that any discussion on sensitive matters which could stoke racial sentiments and hatred should not be held.

Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi urged the Bar Council to call it off as it touched on "a very sensitive issue" among the Malays and Muslims.

He said the council should be aware that Article 121(1a) of the Constitution, which pertained to religion and the Malay race, should not be discussed openly as doing so could provoke the Malays.

Pas president Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang said if the Bar Council proceeded with the forum, it could give rise to suspicion and tension between Muslims and non-Muslims as well as undermine the country's harmony.

He said the forum should be called off for the sake of stability and to safeguard interfaith and interracial relations in the country.

Pas Youth chief Salahuddin Ayub said if the Bar Council was adamant about going ahead with the forum, it should be held behind closed doors.

The Persatuan Ulama Malaysia also waded in by warning the council to stop the forum or face the ire of the Muslim community.

Comments (1)Add Comment
Some Malaysians are just Not Mature and always feel threatened...
written by Darren Teo Sze Hoong, Saturday, August 09 2008 04:06 pm

So I guess some Malaysians are still not mature enough to discuss these issues openly. The sad thing is, the Bar forum is not even bad mouthing or discussing issues about the Islamic faith; rather, the forum is on the impact and outcome of Malaysian administrative governance over the issues on Islamic conversion. I believe the Islamic faith does not in any way teaches people to act violently, unbecoming or discriminatory. The worries that stir the non-Muslim's concern is due to the Malaysian administrative problems on the issue of conversion and the recognition of it. These are purely administrative and nothing more!

My father was down in Jordan few months back, according to him (hearsay) it is quite an eye opening to see how their country is like. Jordan (I think) is also a country with Islam as the official religion. Yet, according to my father, (after few meetings and casual chat with the local Jordanians) there is no such problem, red tape or crazy religious government officials that causes so much strive like what we see in Malaysia! In China, which (I believe) has quite a number of Muslims as well (please correct me if i am wrong), and yet, we do not see or hear such conversion creating mega issues. Hence, I believe there is nothing wrong with Islamic faith, it is because of the human factor that causes such unrest.

Darren Teo Sze Hoong


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