Re:Non-Muslim Lawyers' Association - 2010/08/16 10:27Dear Mohamad Azrulsani Bin Othman,
Greetings. I happen to ‘bump’ upon this topic once again. So now, ………….
Coming to this old topic of discussion on “Associations” once again, I sincerely hope that my suggestion of the name "Monkey's Lawyer Association" had not hurt you; as I did not mean to.
In fact, I hope that you had felt elated with such a name of the association. Anyway, what is so negative or bad about a 'monkey' being referred to, or as appearing in your picture/image/avatar, or to have an association named after it?
However, you need to make it a strict condition that ALL members' of the Association need to possess hearts of "gold" which means that they they are to be humane, kind and considerate most of the time, if not at all times; and that only lawyers of such hearts and ways are to be allowed to be members.
Such 'golden' hearts are the ones which are not cruel in their acts/omissions; nor vicious, inconsiderate or unkind to other lawyers; nor are they hurtful and jealous of others; nor would they be counsels for ‘rogue’ clients, and defend injustice rather than justice.
Further, they should not commit themselves to attacking and discriminating against the small lawyers in our midst - ‘discriminating’ in the sense and realization that they would certainly be fearful of embarking upon such similar attacks upon/against our big-names, big-time, and more established lawyers in our midst.
We need to feel for, and understand that we have many small lawyers, members of the same bar in our midst - who are already suffering in view of the present economy which outlook is not bright for them; and also, due to the presence and abundance of lawyers among us, and who, by themselves, already find it difficult to secure work/jobs in order to enable them to make a living out of this “l a w y e r i n g” profession.
What more, if /when they are religious, and prefer to satisfy God rather than men ?
Unlike big- name, and big-time lawyers, such small lawyers can hardly earn sufficiently to maintain their small offices; and would be compelled to do most of the needed jobs themselves to avoid having to pay out salaries which they cannot afford; and they are, at the same time, too fearful of infringing the SRO rules, and therefore, they opt to forego briefs from demanding clients/business and have no alternative but to turn away potential works.
As a result, such small lawyers suffer and struggle quietly – until they need to cease practice at such times when the overheads become too unbearable for them; and, also, with the realization, that that suffering alone might not be not be enough as they might be framed by other members of the bar who are also out to earn the public’s money.
We therefore, have plenty to discuss, defend and protect small lawyers who are falsely alleged and accused – the specifics of which ought to be discussed only in such meetings - as to be held during the “Monkey’s Association of Golden Hearts Lawyers’ Meetings”, or something of that name.
Also, as a rescue move, for the benefit of all such small lawyers, within such an association, we might have other members as well - made up of those other kind and considerate 'brothers' and ‘sisters’ of the same Bar - especially all those with have political connections and large corporate clients, and with plenty of work GOING AFTER THEM instead of themselves having to chase after small works, small clients, bad and ungrateful clients, and for paltry fees, etc. - that they might choose to utilize the capabilities, abilities and aptitudes of such other small and redundant lawyers, and allow themselves to 'share' a meager part of income earned from such 'assignments' - and allow small lawyers to engage themselves even if they are paid paltry sums – so as to enable our other ‘small’ lawyers to upkeep and pay their employees in order to be less stressed, and be able to provide more efficient services to the public - in the name of ‘lawyers’ - for afterall, everyone ought to be committed to the up-keeping and in keeping up with the “good” name of the profession – “L A W Y E R I N G”.
Coming to this ‘Monkey’ for a name, we need to realize that although it is an animal, it is certainly a harmless good animal, a creature and creation of God. Therefore, it is more consoling and relieving to befriend monkeys rather than some 'brothers' and 'sisters' at the Bar who are 'under-covers' and are out to ‘frame’ and defame, and unjustly act against fellow members of the Bar without any conscience at all; and who are out there only to 'kill' and 'destroy' other members in order that there might be greater demands for their works and services.
Do you know of such ‘big names’ among this 'special' business? We can only discuss them in during our association meeting, lest we might be accused of defamation - as they are all out to accuse, allege, etc. against others, regardless of whether they are personally aware of the realities or truth of the matters or not! This is a strange aspect of this profession.
We are now living in a very sad situation, and ‘bad and cruel’ time, which I had fore-cast years ago, and now made to realize that I should truly regret for having paid for my legal studies - and not one that came as ‘free’ for me. So, I now live in the profession to recall only the good days I had had and of the ‘unreal’ mooting in unreal courts – speaking of ‘justice’.
The only way out now, for the small lawyers, is to discuss further if/when we become members of this other association. Therefore, do start such an association for Lawyers, probably, naming it as the "Monkey's Association For Golden Heart Lawyers" . I would be a member of it.
We need to truly serve, share, contribute, and be united in order to allow all our pressured and suffering members of LAWYERS - to share and get out of their pressures and pains, 'troubles and tribulations' - which have all been cast and thrust upon them by other members of the bar who act without any conscience, and ungrateful and even ‘rogue’ clients - who are much more protected, defended, and therefore, much ‘wiser’ and more protected, and they certainly know as to whom they can attack.
Oh God, help us. We need divine help, helpless as we are.
No wonder so many lawyers died young - understandably, due to the pressures and pains, trials, troubles and tribulations which are too heavy for any one single lawyer to shoulder alone; and especially when family members, not being lawyers themselves, do not know what ‘LAWYERING’ is all about, leave along granting them any assistance.
We therefore, need to be united and form an association among ourselves, consisting of Muslim and Non-Muslim lawyers, - so as TO ALLOW big and small lawyers who have hearts of gold, to gather strength and ward off the unwanted, evil, and vicious attacks which are the works of others - who are filled with unjust and evil intentions against other lawyers, not themselves.
Kindly do email me at jennytanpj@hotmail.com, or do call me, if necessary, at 0173207878.
Thank you.
Regards,
Tan Peek Guat
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Haezreena Begum Bt Abdul Hamid
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Re:Non-Muslim Lawyers' Association - 2011/08/09 10:58Dear All,
I, for one strongly disagree with the statement given by MMLA and i do not agree to this MMLA as well, they dont have many members i believe but their statement may cause people to think that there is a separation btwn the Muslim and non - Muslim lawyers. Gosh! wats dis country becoming nw!!! BC alrdy have a Syariah division and tht wld suffice. Just pm one of dis fellas in MMLA n he was defensive, dis people need to be reminded that its they r members of M'sian Bar (if they still are)and work tgthr. Opportunist i must say...!
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Re:Non-Muslim Lawyers' Association - 2011/08/09 11:18 don't acknowledge this MMLA, seems to be more political and race orientated rather than religion orientated. Would always support the Bar views and hope Bar can monitor this MMLA.
Thank u.
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Re:Non-Muslim Lawyers' Association - 2011/09/14 17:01Appreciate your posts, Haezreena.
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Mohamad Azrulsani Bin Othman
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Re:Non-Muslim Lawyers' Association - 2011/10/06 13:05Halo Tan Peek Guat ,
Im good and im cool with these. A really fine opined by you. Im fine with my avatar, its an Orang Utan actually, and its now understood that we are cool on these too.
I noticed in a chinese newspaper on the idea of having Government to give allowance for those household who earns less than rm3200 p.m. Imagine a BAR member who unfortunately earning less than that, a solebread winner and working 24/7 just only to earn .......... maybe far less than that.
FheWWHwWwWwW!!!!!
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Mohamad Azrulsani Bin Othman
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Re:Non-Muslim Lawyers' Association - 2011/10/07 15:02totally cool on you!!!
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Re: A LAWYERS' ASSOCIATION TO UPHOLD JUSTICE - 2011/10/13 13:38Dear Friends,
We should not be thinking in terms of "Muslim or Non-Muslim Association". Therefore, the topic title ought to be changed. Thank you.
I repeat below my paragraph to say that :
"We therefore, need to be united and form an association among ourselves, consisting of Muslim and Non-Muslim lawyers, - so as TO ALLOW big and small lawyers who have hearts of gold, to gather strength and ward off the unwanted, evil, and vicious attacks which are the works of others - who are filled with unjust and evil intentions against other lawyers, not themselves."
&, for that, "Kindly do email me at jennytanpj@hotmail.com, or do call me, if necessary, at 0173207878".
As lawyers, we need to seek to uphold JUSTICE and not to allow ourselves to be blinded by the injustice portrayed by those misleading and deceiving lawyers in our midst - whose blows can be very cruel and unkind. Need further sharing?
Regards,
Tan Peek Guat
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